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  Did the snake or serpent in the garden have free will?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was the snake or serpent created perfect, god saw it was.

  good.

  so if the serpent or snake(presumably innocent).

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  Myelaine: Here's a hint for you...I could care less (and sorry for cursing earlier unnecesary.)

  But the thing is you came into this discussion with your cutesy reasoning and justification for gods not so perfect actions and than when challenge gave the basic circular reasoning most christians do. When those of us who dont believe give you reason for our non-belief you side step them.

  If god is so great why did he lie about the incident in the garden with the serpent? why did he not say Hey the serpent is right! as he ultimately did in vs22:

  22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

  Instead this confession of his comes AFTER he pronounced judgements and CURSES on mankind?!?
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  Watchtower Quoted in a book about how to lie.

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  link.

  the book is about basicly how to protect yourself online with identity fraud.

  this chapter had quoted good old theocratic warfare in how to not give people your ssn or any other information.

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  Yep they still believe that definition till this day.

  I remember in pioneer school and them crotching the argument of how some truths' dont need to be told to those who dont deserve it or will use the stated truth against you or the brothers.
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  Did the snake or serpent in the garden have free will?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was the snake or serpent created perfect, god saw it was.

  good.

  so if the serpent or snake(presumably innocent).

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  darth frosty

  Myelaine said: would it have been a perfect idea to give everlasting life to people who were capable of and would sin?...if at least one of the angels did sin?

  God's perfect way will put an end to sin and the consequences of this sin and its "effects" in everyones life...there is a place for EVERYONE.

  Umm no disrespect...really...But why the fuck didn't god just eliminate the possibilty of sin in the first place?!?
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  Why I Have Hope For Humanity

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "these are the times that try men's souls" - so said my favourite writer, an american who invented the very concept and phrase.

  "united states of america".

  he sought to encourage the seemingly ridiculous idea that a disunited rag tag army could beat the greatest empire of the day and become independent.

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  darth frosty

  I give you george carlins perspective

  link
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  Did the snake or serpent in the garden have free will?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was the snake or serpent created perfect, god saw it was.

  good.

  so if the serpent or snake(presumably innocent).

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  darth frosty

  the serpent had not only free will but smarts to tell the truth.

  if you read the account you will see in the later verses god confirms that what the serpent said was true(after he kicked adam and eve out.)
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  Get ready - the final end of everything October 21

  by wannabefree in

  1. social
  2. current

  perhaps this has already been addressed, i looked ... i thought you might want to know, not much time left ..... harold camping .... some time after being released from a nursing home in june after suffering a stroke, camping, released an audio message on family radio's website saying, "we would have not been able to be used [by god] to bring about the tremendous event that occurred on may 21 of this year, which probably [will] be finished out on oct. 21 that's coming very shortly.

  that looks like it will be ... the final end of everything.".

  http://www.christianpost.com/news/harold-camping-update-rapture-will-probably-finish-oct-21-57197/.

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  Secret Elders Meetings & Armaggedon Checklists from FDS ...

  by Hairyhegoat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the faithful slave has put out a list of things they think jw's should have on hand, due to the closeness of armaggedon.

  if jw's dont have such a list they can ask their local elders for a copy of such.... .

  does anyone know about such a list ???.

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  It has always been 'HINTED' that the society must have some action plan for when the great tribulation hits...Alas I have never seen or heard any confirmation of this.
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  When was the first time...

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you ever went on jwn?

  do you remember?

  what made you do it?

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  I quit going to the KH in 2004 but sadly the conditioning was so strong it took 2 yrs for me to type jehovah's witness in a search engine and look at the results.

  I had done this before I even left the hall but just the thought of the sites and the fear the WT$ conditions in us prevented me from looking.

  Finally after being out for 2 years I had the courage to examine why I had abandoned the religion of my youth...I have never looked back.

  Oh and this was the 1st site I visited.
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  Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses preach from house to house?

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this explanation is extracted from the reasoning book, page 205. .

  jesus foretold for our day this work: this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

  he also instructed his followers: go .

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  Ahh here is the link that really brings it home

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/209997/1/How-the-Watchtower-corporation-really-works-beginning-to-end

  This Corporation was made legal in its already existing powers for another purpose entirely. Corporations acquire legitimacy by earning a profit.
  In the case of a religious corporation the "profit" must not appear as mere monetary gain.
  There has to be a public service aspect to generating millions of dollars that will escape taxation! Ordinary coporations must demonstrate to the Board of Directors that cash flow is equitable to investors and a justifiable return on investment has been made. The Watchtower Corporation had to generate a kind of marvellous "machine" you could pour money into and make it disappear in the form of the preaching work.

  CONSTANT EXPANSION was the key! This was a kind of maniacal pyramid scheme to grow and grow ahead of the curve of waves of $$.

  Watchtower rank and file members would be used as volunteer labor staying very busy appearing to be doing something important.

  What they were really doing was generating publicity which served to hide the actual purpose of the Watchtower corporation.

  To the rank and file there was no Bill of Rights. The could be worked to death grinding out book and magazine sales. In fact, they had no choice but to comply since their very identity as Jehovah's Witnesses depended on demonstrations of door to door sales and hours devoted.
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  Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses preach from house to house?

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this explanation is extracted from the reasoning book, page 205. .

  jesus foretold for our day this work: this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

  he also instructed his followers: go .

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  Its a way to justify tax exempt status

  link